Talmud Bavli
Talmud Bavli

Responsa for Bava Batra 317:11

אלא לעולם כדאמרינן מעיקרא ודקא קשיא לך תחת אבותיך יהיו בניך ההוא בברכה כתיב

but others may attest it. [Now. if] he is not trusted [shall] others be trusted!<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' CF. supra p. 693, n. 20. ');"><sup>40</sup></span> And if it be suggested [that] here also [the reference is to] a case where his handwriting was endorsed at a court of law, surely, [it may be retorted], R. Joseph b. Manyumi said in the name of R. Nahman, 'Even though his handwriting was not endorsed at a court of law'!<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' This, then, may have been the Palestine message and the difficulty in civil law that it presented. ');"><sup>41</sup></span> What difficulty, however, [is this]? [It is] possible [that] it is a decree of the king<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' A divine precept, a statute without a reason. ');"><sup>42</sup></span> that he<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' A relative such as a son-in-law. ');"><sup>43</sup></span>

Teshuvot Maharam

Q. One of the witnesses to a document subsequently became related to the beneficiary named in the document.
A. The document has no value unless witnesses testify that they saw the document, and recognized the signatures of the witnesses, in the hands of its present possessor before the witness in question became a relative of the beneficiary.
SOURCES: Pr. 115, 919, Am. II, 101; Mord. Sanh. 696. This Responsum relates to Pr. 50. In Cr. 31, L. 355, the two parts are printed together.
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Teshuvot Maharam

Q. One of the witnesses to a document subsequently became related to the beneficiary named in the document.
A. The document has no value unless witnesses testify that they saw the document, and recognized the signatures of the witnesses, in the hands of its present possessor before the witness in question became a relative of the beneficiary.
SOURCES: Pr. 115, 919, Am. II, 101; Mord. Sanh. 696. This Responsum relates to Pr. 50. In Cr. 31, L. 355, the two parts are printed together.
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